mon journal - par Vincent - gnome-panel is dead, long live gnome-panel! - Commentsmon journal - par Vincent2023-01-23T10:27:08+00:00Vincent Untzurn:md5:7aa93f65570cd775650ccbcbffddebcfDotcleargnome-panel is dead, long live gnome-panel! - Vincenturn:md5:7505227d585377cffec1d4a4dfac7d4a2012-09-04T10:54:07+02:002012-09-04T09:54:07+02:00Vincent<p>@<a href="https://www.vuntz.net/journal/post/2011/04/13/gnome-panel-is-dead%2C-long-live-gnome-panel%21#c11352" rel="ugc nofollow">Fred</a>: sorry, forgot to reply to this.</p>
<p>Windows opening in the top-left corner would be a compiz bug, not a panel bug.</p>
<p>The background issue for applets is likely an issue in the applets you're using :/ You should file bugs for this. The crash in the panel is something you should file too.</p>gnome-panel is dead, long live gnome-panel! - Fredurn:md5:93a2eb5fa3df2e5db90954a4b01510682012-07-29T19:21:39+02:002012-07-29T18:21:39+02:00Fred<p>When I use gnome-classic with Compiz on Ubuntu, then all windows open in the top-left corner. :(<br />
With 'No Effects' it uses Metacity and animations looks ugly.</p>
<p>When I use a panel background image the background don't get applied to the applets. :(<br />
In Ubuntu 12.10 alpha the panel crash when I click on the time/date applet.</p>gnome-panel is dead, long live gnome-panel! - Gosset Inofensiuurn:md5:1a38f09d48dd7f0f23cf212bb7d45faa2012-05-20T02:16:46+02:002012-05-20T01:16:46+02:00Gosset Inofensiu<p>Thanks to your effort in this project (gnome-panel) I continue using Ubuntu. Thanks a lot.</p>
<p>I am actually using gnome-classic (compiz) and it's almost the same flavour than gnome 2.x, with some little bugs which hopefully will be fixed any day.</p>
<p>Keep up the good work!</p>gnome-panel is dead, long live gnome-panel! - Frankurn:md5:939feacad2ac0b98dd4d834e5804335b2012-03-29T12:52:34+02:002012-03-29T11:52:34+02:00Frank<p>Vincent, thanks for your reply.</p>gnome-panel is dead, long live gnome-panel! - Vincenturn:md5:b5ad92125eb39fc2e7da07cd05b725ac2012-03-28T15:07:34+02:002012-03-28T14:07:34+02:00Vincent<p>@<a href="https://www.vuntz.net/journal/post/2011/04/13/gnome-panel-is-dead%2C-long-live-gnome-panel%21#c9768" rel="ugc nofollow">Frank</a>: some people in the community are investigating if software rendering with llvmpipe would work for fallback mode; so there'd be still be a fallback mode, but a different one.</p>
<p>This has not been discussed at the moment so I don't have any detail, but I expect this point to be raised during 3.6 development. It's unclear what such a decision, if taken, would entail, though: the individual components of the current fallback mode would still be there, although there might be some integration issues to consider.</p>
<p>So at this point, I can only tell that people interested in the current fallback mode should be ready to participate in the future discussion.</p>gnome-panel is dead, long live gnome-panel! - Frankurn:md5:0fee373d9bcfee3d407e7c5096af933f2012-03-26T22:55:00+02:002012-03-26T21:55:00+02:00Frank<p>Not for a while it would seem...</p>
<p>Vincent, would you be so kind to confirm what you wrote in comment 44, 50 and 58 about Fallback Mode's expected lifespan? I have now heard a very different story from someone who claims to have been in contact with you and I'm not sure who to believe anymore.</p>gnome-panel is dead, long live gnome-panel! - pashanoidurn:md5:d1f8c409175831cbe4b35177583a74d72012-03-23T14:43:12+01:002012-03-23T14:43:12+01:00pashanoid<p>When is this Gnome 3 nightmare gonna end?!!!</p>gnome-panel is dead, long live gnome-panel! - Frankurn:md5:90f215e904afba8facf175a72dabd8f52012-02-29T15:28:27+01:002012-02-29T15:28:27+01:00Frank<p>After having the total abomination that is GNOME Shell thrust upon me by a repository update, I was glad to find the Fallback mode. It saved GNOME for me. Also, it is good to read a reliable confirmation that this mode will not be abandoned while GNOME 3 exists (there are a lot of conflicting rumours about that).</p>
<p>Most of the ported panel system works well enough for me, but I really miss the ability to copy/link an entire submenu to the panel. Is that related to the removal of the drawers? Or is there some other way to get that functionality back?</p>
<p>Another peculiarity is the Wine submenu and its submenus disappearing. All its entries now show up in one big heap under the 'Other' menu. What is that about?</p>gnome-panel is dead, long live gnome-panel! - Leonard Evensurn:md5:be6e356c738feb72654f422a0f9d02382012-02-21T17:51:54+01:002012-02-21T17:51:54+01:00Leonard Evens<p>I am beginning to understand gnome 3, but I am a long way from mastering it. Discovering the fallback mode was a big help.</p>
<p>But I still can't create a desktop I want and then save it when I logout so that it comes up the next time I login. In either the new version or the fallback version I have to create the desktop I want to be using for that session from scratch. I can't see why anyone would consider that an advantage.</p>gnome-panel is dead, long live gnome-panel! - Federicourn:md5:05bce7f5004dbd8daeca1884fede11b22011-12-06T09:08:59+01:002011-12-06T09:08:59+01:00Federico<p>Thanx for the fallback, even if it sucks compared to Gnome 2.<br />
I am seriously thinking do downgrade Ubuntu to 10.04 to get it back.</p>
<p>From the moronic comments of the dev (move icons by mistake fixed by using Alt? could not think of anything else?)<br />
Forcing user to have their icons hopelessy cluttered in the center or on the left? COuld not you leave an option, autoalign icons?) I understand now why the sad current state of things.</p>
<p>Thanx for all the fish, I'm leaving.</p>gnome-panel is dead, long live gnome-panel! - Hamish Wilsonurn:md5:c8d92702d71fe530c1961ca46456f69a2011-11-07T05:05:34+01:002011-11-07T05:05:34+01:00Hamish Wilson<p>With Gnome Shell now being able to run with llvmpipe on the CPU, is the Fallback mode in danger? Or will it continue to be supported?</p>gnome-panel is dead, long live gnome-panel! - guntberturn:md5:f5a4604008c636b4d9c0c6fbcdbfc6382011-11-01T19:21:08+01:002011-11-01T19:21:08+01:00guntbert<p>@Vincent: thx for the post, thx for fallback and thank you for staying here and still giving answers :-)</p>gnome-panel is dead, long live gnome-panel! - Jasonurn:md5:ad128cc75598d486c9a08de031e899d72011-10-31T01:07:25+01:002011-10-31T01:07:25+01:00Jason<p>Please bring back drawers. I miss being able to put my 5 or 6 most used applications in a drawer and not have to dig through menus to get to them. I don't understand why Gnome developers insist on taking functionality away and calling it improvement. If I did that with the commercial software I develop I'd have no users left.</p>gnome-panel is dead, long live gnome-panel! - Simonurn:md5:952ab1508f16defab33865958edf4b332011-10-29T16:05:54+02:002011-10-29T15:05:54+02:00Simon<p>Hi,<br />
I can't do anything with the gnome-applets using Alt+RightMouseButton. I tried to set the metacity modifier to something else and back. Nothing helps! Help please.</p>gnome-panel is dead, long live gnome-panel! - Vincenturn:md5:e2f7126ff7acb335025a0da8d0ac44cf2011-10-24T22:12:04+02:002011-10-24T21:12:04+02:00Vincent<p>@<a href="https://www.vuntz.net/journal/post/2011/04/13/gnome-panel-is-dead%2C-long-live-gnome-panel%21#c6694" rel="ugc nofollow">Tom</a>: hrm, not sure what distro you are using, but the option is still in 3.2, so fallback can still be used like explained here... So I'll continue to tell people they can use the fallback mode :-)</p>gnome-panel is dead, long live gnome-panel! - Jamesurn:md5:8ad6e4db18551c1bb51797f5ebdb39532011-10-23T02:14:54+02:002011-10-23T01:14:54+02:00James<p><del></del><del></del> REQUIREMENTS FOR A GOOD LAUNCHER <del></del><del></del>---</p>
<p>Implement this:<br />
- favorite files + recent files<br />
- favorite places + recent places<br />
- favorite applications + recent applications</p>
<p>Let the user choose how many recent items he wants to see. DON'T LIMIT IT TO 5 OR 10!!!<br />
Less number of clicks.</p>
<p>Also, one should be able to QUICKLY access the recent places/files whenever opening and saving files (even in the windows to browse to upload a file). And in the file manager one should be able to paste paths (with text), always when working with files. A one-click way to toggle between text paths and button paths. A one click way to view folder contents as list/icons/level columns/preview+list</p>
<p>When everything works fine: do it pretty.</p>gnome-panel is dead, long live gnome-panel! - Jamesurn:md5:d414dba640142542ab4d540d0fab0c862011-10-23T02:05:00+02:002011-10-23T01:05:00+02:00James<p>There were/are many ways how to improve the classical menus + gnome-panel. But they have ruined everything.<br />
Unity makes your desktop a desktop for kids.</p>
<p>They just needed to add a way to have as many "recent documents" as you want + recent applications + favorite documents and places. And to be able to access the latter from any window where you are going to save/open files too.</p>
<p>The menu that LinuxMint adopted a few years ago was almost perfect. A combination of that (but polished and extended) with the classic menu+panel would have been perfect. Then you can add design, transparencies or whatever you want.</p>gnome-panel is dead, long live gnome-panel! - Tomurn:md5:8d09ea215328dde5d1499bfe007fb2322011-10-22T09:28:42+02:002011-10-22T08:28:42+02:00Tom<p>This info is mostly wrong now. The option isn't in 3.2 anymore (you have to edit some session text now).<br />
And besides the Fallback mode is a really bad excuse compared to Gnome 2.34. No options, applets etc.</p>
<p>Learn your lesson: Don't tell people who like Gnome2 to use Fallback. It just isn't good enough and mostly really sucks donkey balls.</p>gnome-panel is dead, long live gnome-panel! - Anonymousurn:md5:018c6dfd4670b76094fabd5892e8ce8c2011-10-17T23:39:27+02:002011-10-17T22:39:27+02:00Anonymous<p>I am disappointed with GNOME 3. It feels like a regression usability.<br />
It feels like GNOME 3 is designed for idiots and tablets.<br />
My opinion is that GNOME 2 had the best desktop of any computing platform.<br />
GNOME 3 does not feel like it has the desktop in mind.</p>
<p>I am very thankful that gnome-panel still is available.<br />
Unfortunately the experience of gnome-panel is not as good as it was.<br />
The default gnome-panel settings are bad; no show/hide desktop, no foot-logo, no browser shortcut, no trashbin, etc.<br />
With some configuration you could restore it to a better state. However, many applets don't work (indicator-applet), themes (dust-sand), etc.<br />
The application menu is cluttered with stuff that shouldn't be there, etc.<br />
The current gnome-panel experience is not what it should be, but I believe it could get better with some further refinements.</p>gnome-panel is dead, long live gnome-panel! - Peter Pallurn:md5:72063d4f6d7100cd6c52c3345b394c822011-09-26T06:36:37+02:002011-09-26T05:36:37+02:00Peter Pall<p>Would it be able to add a tool tip to the panel telling the user which button to press to modify anything?<br />
One of the elements that caused the success of Gnome was that all applications look - and are controlled - exactly the same way. If now a central app behaves different without documenting it in a prominent place (You be able to change anything on the panel you'll have to google now *and* have to know what to google for: "Gnome 3" and "Gnome panel") that's a bareer not everybody will be willing to cross.</p>